Blackhawk Colorado

NOTE:  THIS IS AN OLD TRIP REPORT FROM LAST NOVEMBER 2017.  THE BITS AND PIECES AND PICTURES HAVE BEEN SITTING ON MY DESKTOP WAITING FOR ME TO COMPILE THEM INTO A REPORT.  SO I JUST PUT THEM TOGETHER WITHOUT MUCH POLISH.

I spent a week here in November.  Son Frank joined me for a few days.  Son Cory and Katy visited a day from Denver.  Otherwise I was on my own.
I went up on an Uber and then to the airport with a paid ride to my landlady in Central City.

I lost a good bit of money, most of it on video poker.  I just could not seem to have a winning session.  It was disappointing because I liked playing there, especially in Bull Durham Casino where I could play a nickel machine that was not full pay, but close enough.

I paid too much for lodging.  I went to Ameristar and then up to Central City to a bed and breakfast there.  Both were great places.  The Ameristar had wonderful rooms and a grand rooftop pool with Jacuzzis inside and out. They gave me free early check in.  There were no resort fees.   
They also had some full pay machines, but had the worst comp rules I have ever heard.  Basically, one got nothing until they reached a high level of play and were unable to use accumulated points which would then go away before I ever went again.  
Contrast that with the Bull Durham where points could be used for cash immediately, a thousand got five dollars, and any left would bet there as long as the casino was there.  


There was nothing else to do but gamble in Blackhawk.  I even had difficult because I worried some eye meds might run out and there was no place without a car to get a script filled.  Even room snacks were hard to buy. 
But I did well.  There were a good number of free buffets for new signers, there was a good Veteran's free lunch at Ameristar and an every day discount for Veteran's   In the second part of my stay I had a fine healthy breakfast every morning, then went down and had a free hot dog at Bull Durham, free popcorn, even sometimes a free cup of soup.  
I used my points at Lady Luck to eat twice.  I was not impressed with their food.

Here are more details on the trip:

HOW DOES REDROCK COMPARE WITH VEGAS?

I substituted Blackhawk for Vegas for my yearly November trip this year. It was a grand decision for me, but it might not be right for everyone.

Especially disturbing is that recently in the news Blackhawk casinos were called out for prosecuting people who inadvertently played credits left on machines.
http://kdvr.com/2017/11/15/casino-customers-prosecuted-for-playing-abandoned-slot-credits/

http://kdvr.com/2017/11/16/outrage-over-casinos-prosecuting-gamblers-who-use-small-abandoned-slot-credits/

http://kdvr.com/2017/11/16/outrage-over-casinos-prosecuting-gamblers-who-use-small-abandoned-slot-credits/

This is disturbing on a number of levels. I will say that in the list of casinos doing the prosecuting, I did not see Bull Durham.

Blackhawk is not about the shopping experience that Vegas has become. In fact, without a car it was hard for me to pick up my usual room food, and I was happy I had brought cheese and hard boiled eggs for times when I did not want to eat out. The second place I stayed, in Central City, Nickilee Mansion did not allow food in the room, so I carried a good bit of cheese back home with me.

I expected Blackhawk would be similar to Oatman, with little mining themed tourist places here and there along the path. It was not. For me, that was a relief.

However, the flip side was that it was difficult with no car to find room snacks. While I had a refrigerator at Ameristar, I did not have access to my favorite drink, seltzer. That would have been very refreshing in the middle of the night. I did find a small plastic lime with lime juice, so I added that to the water.

Blackhawk is not about dressing up and having a fancy time. Most people here wore the same sort of practical clothing: warm plaid shirts, layers, jeans or similar pants. I fit in with my nicely lined plaid shirt. Perhaps my warm "newsboy" style hat was different from most of the head gear, but it sure worked for me. And a scarf was needed.

Blackhawk is not about escaping winter. We needed to have coats and hats and a scarf to be comfortable walking. A rain coat was also a good thing to pack, although I did not use mine. Snow is possible. We had a light dusting one day.

I could see how the right timed huge snowstorm might delay an outgoing flight. In Vegas I could always count on getting in and out.

However, now that the direct Southwest flight from Albany to Vegas has been discontinued, there is more chance for a delay along the way, especially if Chicago is the mid airport where delay is a common pattern even when it is not winter.

Now Southwest flies Albany to Denver nonstop. That is cheaper for me and much more comfortable. The trip time is half what it would now take to go to Vegas, and an hour less than even the old direct flight.

My cost was $236 which I got by booking early. That is almost half the cost of going to Vegas.

I used to hate that last hour on the plane, even for the five and a half hour flight to Vegas. Now that the flight is more like 8 hours, I just can't see going to Vegas directly.

However, I could see a week in Blackhawk playing 2-10 spread limit poker and then an inexpensive flight to Vegas and some sort of transportation to Laughlin, where I would spend most of my time.

I suppose a few nights downtown playing at the Golden Nugget would set me up for a Greyhound ride to Laughlin from the downtown station.

Also, for some, Vegas is an escape from winter because it is warm there and warmer still in Laughlin.

For me, cooler is a benefit. I would not have liked it to be below zero F; but I enjoyed the crisp cool air of winter and the snow. I have more difficulty with hot and humid than I do with cold and dry.

Blackhawk is not about entertainment. There are no performing shows. I did find some stage music at the Monarch and perhaps that will increase because the Monarch is adding on and becoming bigger. However, it was only on weekends and did not seem very attractive to me.

Of course, Blackhawk is much smaller. I could walk from Ameristar to plenty of other casinos. In that way it reminded me of the way downtown Vegas was a couple decades ago.

However, there were no cheap rooms in this area and the weekend prices were really high.

The Lady Luck would be a good place for me to stay because I could get some free weekday nights for 6 hours of poker play. After 6 hours the player gets a certificate to use anytime in the next two weeks for weekday nights, but not for the night of play.

So if I paid for a Sunday night, I could get a free Monday for play on Sunday, free Tuesday for play on Monday, Free Wednesday for play on Tuesday. The limit is 3 free nights. At the cost of rooms, this would decrease the cost of the trip.

Then I could use my $2 an hour to help pay for another night.

It is rare to get free rooms based on Poker Play. I had them last year at the Colorado Belle in Laughlin.

I still don't know why because I once had a host at Edgewater and the poker play just did not count for anything with her although the nickle VP did. That was back when they had full pay.

The Old Laughlin River Palms had some great deals on free rooms. I could actually win them at the poker table. However, having spoiled my self with the Ameristar, I wonder if I'd be willing to stay down scale. Perhaps I'd do my first night in town there.

Points for play do me no good at the Ameristar. They can't be exchanged for small amounts, and they don't last over six months.

However, I met a fellow at the Nickilee Mansion where I stayed in Central City who gets free offers at Amerisatar all the time for his quarter play. However, he plays quarter progressives that are 6/5 for double bonus. That has to be a short pay machine even with a healthy progressive.

Perhaps my losses there, and Frank's losses using my card will generate some future offers.

It would be difficult to cover the weekends, but if Cory came and got me on the weekend, even to just deliver me to Arvada for cheaper rooms, I could skip one weekend and have a good, long trip none the less.

Or I might take a Rambling Express for $14 to a hotel in Arvada or Lakewood.

Even using a Lyft from Blackhawk to Arvada might be a reasonable way to beat the high weekend rates here. The Savanah suites was just $70 a night with a washing machine and kitchen

SWIMMING AT AMERISTAR

I walked outside to see the view from the roof, but I did not stay long. It was cold both times.

The pool was huge and comfortable. Each time we went it had a few kids playing games. I did not want to get splashed in my healing eye with Chorine water to I avoided them. Otherwise, the swimming was great. It is a shallow pool. There is not a life guard on duty, at least the times we went. I think it is open to hotel guests from 7am until 11pm. This is incredible, especially since we were in the off season.

The indoor hot tub was large and bubbling and foamy. It was very comfortable and made me feel better each time I went in it.

NICKILEE MANSION IN CENTRAL CITY

This trip I did 5 nights at this spot in Central City. That let me evaluate that area. It was a great place, but none of the casinos there caught my attention.

Here is my review:

This place is quite an adventure. It is a bed and breakfast in Central City just three blocks from casinos like Bonanza and Century, and from the shuttle stop that will take guests all around Central City and Blackhawk casinos for free.

The small Visitor Center just a block away had a woman who I think would tell stories about the past all day long, and a series of photographs showing Central City in the old days. They usually have art, but it was in transition when I visited.

There is also a little old fashioned thrift store a half block away where I spent $2.67 on a fine Saratoga Casino cap, a Central City mug, a BHA free water bottle, a magazine on Buffalo Bill, and a book of Aphorisms.

Nicki is a fine and friendly host, and the stay comes with a tour of the the house, an old historical place that was renovated by her and filled with antiques. It is quite a lovely place, like going back into the 19th Century.

Downstairs is a steam shower that is quite delightful. Quickly the shower are fills with steam so it is like a steam bath.

Each room had interesting old pieces. I was especially intrigued by the variety of old lamps, with interesting shades.

Nicki has two cats who were very laid back and easy. The house is pet friendly, so one day we had a couple small dogs. They had to stay downstairs.

Most of the rooms had televisions. Then there is a large screen television in the maid common room. Nicki asks that news and commercials not be played on the common television.

The wifi worked well. I listened to music from my phone.

She also wants shoes removed at the door, and that keeps the place meticulously clean.

As a host, Nicki was just grand: friendly, willing to help solve problems, full of stories, and good humored.

My major issue in Central City was that the air is even thinner than in Blackhawk and I just had one hell of time climbing the hill up to my room at midnight.

Blackhawk is about frugal gambling. A place like Bull Durham will have playable tables in nickles and still give some free food and drink.

Drink was available everywhere and the service was quite good. Dewar's is usually my choice. When I was checking out the VP in the place with the most fugal prices for food and many nickle games, a waitress offered to get me a drink while I was walking around.

The drink stations for soda and water were common. So that saved the dollar tip every time I helped myself to coffee or water or iced tea. They gave a free hot dog everyday and had chicken soup along with popcorn. Those made my lunch.

At the Wild Card casino (which we ended up not liking much because it was too loud and crowded)They set up a small wheel on the street and had folks who were passing spin for small benefits to get them in the casino. Frank won $2 cash. I won $6 free play, which I lost. It seemed like a scene out of a long time ago. Imagine encountering a wheel that was not electronic, but just clicked along the pins until it stopped on something like in the old carnival days. They have a fifty cent ATM, but my bank added $2.50 to any transaction.

Blackhawk is about customer service. Every worker in every place was friendly and went out of his or her way to do whatever might be needed. Places had signs to put in front of a well loved machine to give the player time to go have a meal. In the Monarch an attendant actually shut a machine down so the woman could go have her supper.

At Bull Duram a young fellow met me when I went in to get a sense of the VP and gave me a complete tour of the place, showing me where the nickle plays were, showing me that at the bar were Double Bonus machines (9/6 so not full pay) that required just three quarters for full play. When I checked the next day, the royal progressive was over $900. I can't do the sophisticated math, but it seems to me that with the decreased volatility, that progressive would to a large extent overcome the short pay table. At any rate, when Vegas Orleans took out their signature 10/7, they replaced them with 9/6 double bonus and people played them in spite of their being 9/6 DDB right nearby. Those needed 5 quarters for full paid royals, not 3. And they were not progressive.

JOB was for the most part 8/5 everywhere. It was the worst pay table. And I did not see progressives on those games. DDB was often 9/5 with progressives. Bonus poker was 7/5, sometimes with progressives. I hit Aces at the Bull Durham, but it had not progressed very much. The Royal was $273.

I did not do a full inventory of everywhere, especially once I decided I liked Bull Duram or Gilpin in that section of Main Street and Monarch or Lady Luck in the other.

Since coming home I have read about some of the casinos pressing charges on people playing points they find on machines or picking up as little as ten dollars off the floor. That depressed me. However, Bull Durham was not listed as a casino that did that.

Points at Bull Durham are not erased after six months. In fact, were I to die, my children could come with a death certificate and get my points. That would be unlikely, because once 1000 points are earned, they can be turned in for $5 cash.

Incredible for me was to find the 2-10 spread limit game at Lady Luck. What a perfect game for m! I am basically a limit player, but I like stakes high enough to overcome the rake. This was. It was also at times a flop game where few people raised preflop. So we saw the first five cards for $2.

Players were for the most part good, and there were regulars. As I played there day after day I got to know them and their play.

Once in a while there would be a loose, poor player who would be passed around. I found most folks very friendly and easy. The banter was good natured.

There were a few who were overly anxious, and one old guy who kept huming Christmas songs, but that was the worst of the table ambiance, except for one fellow who objected to something I said about his play to the woman next to me.

I could be content just in this one area of Blackhawk.

Bull Duram even had a wall of nickle slots that were the old coin machines and dropped actual nickles.

Also, most of the machines I played at were very familiar to me. Some let me set the pace of the dealing. I like the slowest dealing because I enjoy the expectation when a trips comes on the first card and I'm hoping for quads.

The music in the casinos, however, was not to my liking except late at night at the Bull Durham. They played some very interesting sets there.

GILPIN

Gilpin was nice. It was cleaner. It has Deuces, which while not being full pay, were similar in payback to other pay tables. Frank played a 7/5 Bonus, hit no big hits, and still walked away with $60 and enough points to get a voucher for the restaurant and $10 off the meal.

I lost there as I did in almost every VP session I played. I played Deuces with a strategy sheet for the harder hands. But nothing came of it.

We also found it very noisy in the morning when the fellow was changing the light bulbs using a lift that made the most annoying beeping.

Blackhawk is a place to go off on moutain hikes. However, this is not a good area for me to hike. The air is thin, and I easily get winded and react to the change in atmosphere in other ways.

So, not having a car to access the hikes was not an issue. I also had injured my foot in Denver, and while it was pretty much healed and kept comfortable in my hiking boots, I did not want to walk long distances on this

trip.

AMERISTAR HOTEL

All reports on these casino hotel rooms set up my expectations for a great room, and I was not disappointed. At check in they upgraded me and I ended up with a refrigerator, although they told me that these are only setup in rooms for medical reasons.

There was also a one cup coffee maker, and a note to housekeeping got us some extra coffee on the second day. It was the kind that takes the black plastic trays, and I had carried some from other hotels that would fit in those trays, but as it was we had enough coffee from housekeeping.

I thought the coffee was good.

Frank went down to Starbucks for his five dollar special coffee.

The bathroom was exceptional. There was a separate section for the toliet with another door, and the tub and shower were also separate. Frank and I each had our own sinks. At night the lights were on a dimmer which gave just the right amount to find the bathroom but not enough to wake up anyone.

Supplied soaps were nice.

The beds were comfortable with plenty of pillows.

The television had quite a few channels and it was possible to see some movies without commercials. TCM was not in the mix, but there were some stations that played old westerns one night. The large screen tipped so it could be watched from the fine comfortable chair with ottoman.

The electric outlets were plentiful. I did not need the extention cords I carry for my sleep apnea.

A large oval table with a lamp accommodated my computer, and during sleepless times I could position it with the screen away from Frank so I did not wake him while writing.

A smaller oval table was next to the large comfortable chair.

Wifi was easy. No passwords. It worked well for the phone. I carry a computer that is very old, but small with a complete keyboard, and I don't hook it up to wifi to avoid viruses.

I just use it to develop my trip reports.

I suppose here in Blackhawk I might connect to the internet without worrying about getting bothered with a virus, but I hit one at Monte Carlo in Vegas one time, and so I limit my internet to the smartphone and find that is sufficient.

The construction used heavy materials. The doors were solid in this place. Stone was used in some places.

One time returning to my room I heard my neighbor playing music rather loud, but once out of the hallway and in my room, I could not hear it.

The only noise we had was some noise from the hall cleaning people on a walkie talkie one afternoon.

Everything is compact and out of the way. small sliding shelves held the coffee maker and it could be rolled back away when not in use. The closet was full of hangers. Larger drawer space was a bit limited, but I generally keep things in my suitcase anyway.

When I come again, I'll ask for a room higher up, but I had a good view and enjoyed it.

There was nothing to fault in this space.

I did set the air too high and was uncomfortable in the night. Also, I caught a little cold and got dehydrated. I let the water run out in my sleep apnea machine. Of course, in the middle of the night, I did not want to disturb Frank, but in the end I had too. Once I got liquid in me, and the heat lowered, I was much better.

With all my sleep issues, it is hard to share a room, even one as plush as this one.

The pool on the roof was everything I expected. It was very fine. I only went once in daylight. The views then were delightful. The inside jacuzzi was large and easy. The outside jacuzzi was fine too. It was cold to go to it, but coming back did not feel bad at all.

It snowed one day and I got some photos of it.

Here are some shots of Central City where I stayed at the Bed and Breakfast.  There were casinos there, but I was impressed with them.  From there I could take a free shuttle down into Blackhawk and back.  It was a fine ride and old trolly like car.

Gold created this town when it was discovered by a greenhorn not to far from the city.

 This was my bed and breakfast

 These shots below were from a visitor's center around the corner from my B and B.

The inside is like a museum of antiques

 Nicki at her antique stove.  It looks like new and it still works fine.

 Flush plumbing

I stay here again.  It was delightful in many ways.  I met people at breakfast each weekend morning, and Nicki ate and talked to me other times.  We hit it off well.  She is not a gambler, but she appreciates that her business is built on gamblers staying there.  

What was hardest was the oxygen weak air.  I did okay in Blackhawk, but in Central City it was a real chore to hike the hill to the Nicki Lee Mansion.  I had to rest every free feet.

Of course, the Lady Luck deal will draw me in the future.  

Around the corner from the B and B is also a thrift store with great old fashioned prices.  I bought a souvenir Central City mug, an old Western magazine, and one other thing for practically nothing.

I also appreciated that going off season there were no crowds to negotiate.  As I age, and now with this bad eye, I hate being in crowds.

Katie and Cory visit

Cory and Katie came down for an evening. They met me at Lady Luck in the poker room. We pooled out money and tried a bit of craps, but our luck did not hold out.

This craps table had a bet that paid if 5 numbers were hit before the 7. There was one section for low and another for high. Katie hit for the high and that gave her a fine $34 win.

The craps table had been $3 until we joined. It then turned $5. Still a good find. It was Katie's first time to play.

I took them to see the Nicki Lee house and they were impressed. Nicki was not there.

We then went out to Safe Way, The pharmacy was not open, but we bought batteries for my diabetes tester, lozenges, and chap stick. Katie took care of me by finding things and Cory put in the batteries. Now I can test again.

Then we went to the Monarch for another lobster buffet. It was good, but more expensive than the weekday. They took my second card as Cory's card and that saved us $2. They took $4 of comps that must have been run up when Frank and I played.

The lobster and crab legs were good as were other treats.

It was fine to have Cory bring me home again and not have that hill to negotiate. 

Schenectady Rivers Casino Overnight Number 2

I was surprised to get a free room offer with the little play I gave them last time.  It may have been that they saw me as a newbie last visit.  I learned at the Player's Club that I had three accounts with them.  Very strange.  Now they are consolidated, so I won't look like a newbie again.

No resort fees.  What a joy!  A free night here is a free night.  This time we got a room facing the river.  Great view.  It had all the same amenities.  I did learn that I could get a microwave and coffee maker just for asking, but we just used the free coffee in the hotel lobby. Starbucks was perfectly fit even for my gourmet coffee loving wife.  And they had little syrups to have flavored coffee.
Elizabeth rarely goes to a casino with me.  For some reason she was willing to go this time, and we had a great time.  She was content.  I think she may go again.  She especially liked that the entire casino is smoke free.
Along with the free night came $40 in free play of mine and $10 for her new sign up.  So, she played a few slots and some VP and wound up $10 down for the trip.  She also got a great $25 matchplay which we split, and lost on a come out roll of 3.  Not even any suspense there.
I was behind until this morning when the 9/5 DDB gave me Aces twice.  I ended up $267 ahead for the trip.  That is nice because I head to Blackhawk CO next week and can use the bankroll.
There was a 3-6 game from 5 PM until almost midnight and a half hour high hand $300 bonus.  Just before the game broke up I was on the board with just tens full of sevens.  With 4 minutes to go some Aces full no limit guy took me down.
I liked the game.  Players were very loose.  Still, I did not do as well as I would have expected I might against that competition.
One fellow there had lived in Colorado and been to Blackhawk.  He praised the Lady Luck Casino.  That may be where I go on a future trip.  At the time he used to go just 6 hours of poker play got him a free night, but it was unadvertised and not based on a reservation.  He liked the games there, and liked the poker at the Ameristar.  However, it may have changed since his time.
An old fellow, Korean War vet named Paul was the best player at the table and played all the while until eleven.  He held an unlit cigar and could have perfected a George Burns imitation.  I liked all the players.  One had the same mannerisms as Peter Balint, my old colleague.  It was eerie.
The poker room  took my name and called me when the game started.  That was great.

With the free room came free wine at 5PM in the lobby.  The wine was pretty basic.  I added some stevia to my merlot to take the sour edge off.  Then it was fine, and I had two glasses.  The casino does not give free alcohol, but the whiskey prices were not inflated, running about $6 to $9.  I just drank the free wine and after dinner had a couple glasses in my room.  I brought a bottle of wine, usual Tisdale at under $5 a bottle.   It is a small casino, so a trip to the room is effortless.

We walked the trail along the river for a while and enjoyed that.  A few rowers were in the river again.  Only one small motor boat.  It is a great spot.  Very pretty.

Currently they are doing a good bit of building.  A Marriot is coming and it looked like it would be really huge once it is finished.  Perhaps there will be more eateries there then.
Just now we were not thrilled with the food choices.  We went out twice, once to Peter Pause, just down the street across from the entrance to Union College and then on the way home we stopped at Riccitello's , an old fashioned Italian place built into a house.

Peter Pause was great food at reasonable prices. I loved the homemade corned beef hash that had very little potato.  Elizabeth did not like it.  I ate hers.  The atmosphere was of a locals diner.
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g48572-d1115373-Reviews-Peter_Pause_Restaurant-Schenectady_New_York.html
The service was good.  They only took cash.

We stopped for lunch at Riccitello's and I ate their chili and some streamed clams.  Elizabeth had eggplant parm and it was made there and delicious.  No frozen patties.  The chili was great for me, but would be too spicy for many eaters.  It all did well with my sugar numbers.

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g48572-d420280-Reviews-John_Riccitello_Restaurant-Schenectady_New_York.html

The bar was attached close enough to hear the conversation. The bartender (owner?) had been interviewed by Channel 6, but the piece had not run.  They wanted to know how the casino had impacted their business, and he was very positive.   He said they were swamped on weekends, and speculated that the poor food choices at Rivers was one reason.

We did have a good meal for a decent price at the Asian place at Rivers called Mian.
https://riverscasinoandresort.com/dining/mian/

The accommodated my no carb diet with broccoli and no rice in a veggie pork dish, but I wondered if the sauce had added sugar.  On the side I got a plate of Chinese greens that were great.  I could eat two of those and be on diet and be satisfied.  Elizabeth had a Pad Thai dish and brought half home. It was good.  Nice to have refrigerators in the room.

https://riverscasinoandresort.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/New-Mian-Menu-sm-2.pdf

We had planned to go out for supper, but Elizabeth tired out and wanted to stay.  I was happy.  I got more poker.  At the end of the night I was up just $5 in that 3-6 session, and I wondered why given the competition.

In the casino I could not find the slot I had liked last visit, something with a Diamond Dragon theme.  I kept looking.  Mostly I played the 9/5 DDB and Elizabeth played an 8/5 JOB 5 hand game in nickels.  I sure with there was just one full pay machine to keep my happy when the poker was not appealing.

This morning there was one 1-2 NL game in session and the faces all looked like serious players.  So, I went to the VP and was happy that I did.

Tonight from 5- midnight the same high hand awards apply, so there would probably be another 3-6 game if they get enough players.  I would have been too tired, unless I had napped at the room.  They did extend our check out until 1PM.  They seem very easy about that.

I came home, unpacked and slept for 3 hours.  I guess I did not rest well in the night.
All it all it was a great little trip.  It reminded me of Vegas years ago when comps were easier and there were few limitations.  Elizabeth would go back as well.  She was happy reading in the lounge and drinking free coffee, and in playing a few dollars in the slots.
It us just a 40 minute drive from our house, so next spring I can go just when the 3-6 game is working.  If they keep the high hand going, I think the 3-6 game will keep going.  It is hard to know why it does not attract players.  All at our table agreed that we could never make money at the 2-4 games at Turning Stone.  Too many tight players and too high rakes.

Elizabeth and I have been experimenting with trying to get the vacation-away experience without going so far away from home.   It seems to be working.  We agreed that we felt away from home just to be in this new place and exploring restaurants and such.

Sunset over the river at Rivers.

Schenedtady RIVERS CASINO OVERNIGHT

I got a great deal with a fellow gambling pal from out of town for an overnight and comped food at the Rivers Casino in Schenectady, NY.
They would like to spread a 3-6 limit game there, but rarely are able due to a lack of interest.  Saturday the high hand award of $500 per hour drew some players.  It is easier to hit those hands in a limit game than in no limit.  I played and lost pretty badly.
Later while my gambling pal was collecting his huge profit from the 2-5 NL games, I wandered about the casino.
The pay tables are not very good at VP.  They rarely are in these locals casinos.  I played a nickel 5 play 8-5 JOB.  It is not a good pay table, but I was hoping for a surge in volatility in my favor.  Perhaps a dealt quad.  None came at all.
I see they are not on VP Free, so perhaps I need to take more time to survey all the choices.
I moved to a DDB 9-5 in quarters, but nothing happened there.  That is a 98% game and worth playing short term for fun.  In the long run it grinds the player down.
Then I played a slot.  Three quarter lines a pull.  It was older in style with some sort of diamond dragon theme.  I liked it.  I cashed out $15 to the good.
The next day I played a decent 1-2 NL and won back some of my money.  I left $160 down for the trip, but with that much in free room and food.  Then in the mail this week I got a free night offer with $40 free play, so that is a value o $150.  It is not so bad to lose when comps bring back the value.  My wife and I are booked for next Wednesday when I have some hope that the $300 every half hour might attract some 3-6 players.  I've also been practicing the DDB VP.

I was not impressed with the food last time.  My companion is a fast eater. He just wants to get back on the table and play for hours at a time.  He gets only the rare chance to go to the casino.  He can always eat.

We had comps in the steakhouse, one of those upscale places where the steaks are $30 and everything else is a $10 add on.  I had a prime rib.  It was a generous cut, but was much too tough.  I took half of it home and got two more meals out of it, but I cut it up and sautéed it in mushrooms and onions.

We also had a comped express breakfast at a bar just near the elevator.  It was not so great.  I had an egg muffin sandwich.  Pretty boring.  We did find out that we were missing a great Sunday brunch offered in another place.  I'll try that spot next time, or go back out into Schenectady to a better restaurant.

The casino was fine otherwise.  Saturday night there was free music in the lounge.  I watched for a while, but got sick with a migraine and had to call it an early night.  The television has a huge selection of stations including TCM which is a great station when you don't feel well.  No commercials.
I was also impressed with the room lighting.  There were many lights in various places, including those over the beds for night reading.  The deck had a wonderful desk lamp and there was another free standing light as well.
The shower was large and long with good pressure.  The controls were on one end and the shower on the other, so we did not get wet setting the right temperature.
There was a fine little refrigerator, but there was no coffee maker.  I'll bring my own next week and my own coffee.  I keep forgetting to do that when I am traveling by car locally.

We walked out into the quiet morning behind the casino to make phone calls.  There was a fine walking path along the river.  This morning the river was full of long rowed boats.  There must have been an event.  It was wonderful to see them all.
This week I'll try walking the path along the river with my camera.

I also saw some locals I knew.  John from our old house game was there, and my old neighbor and pal Ron was also.  They both played at my table for a while at times.

I did not drink, even the wine in my room later.  They don't give free alcohol.  I don't know the prices.

TURNING STONE ON THE SEVEN DOLLAR BUS

Yankee Trails offered $7 bus rides to Turning Stone last Thursday and I managed to get a seat on one of the five buses.
I hit a high hand.  Four aces with my A-9 hand and no larger kicker on the board, so I won $200.  I almost did not turn the hand over because I thought I needed pocket Aces for it to count.

I played break even poker until just the last hour or so and then my game fell apart and I lost the money back.

I took my $15 of freeplay to the fish slot and won $15, but later I lost $5
In the end I was $42 ahead and rather disappointed in myself.

I played with a discocated retina in my left eye and went to the emergency room as soon as I got back.  It is pretty bad.  I get surgery next Tuesday.  Last night and today I spent with one doctor after another.  Tomorrow I head back to Turning Stone with Peter to meet Chris on Sunday.  That should be a good visit.

Turning Stone

Tuesday, July 25, 2017

Turning Stone The Poker

As is generally the case, the players at the Turning Stone tables were for the most part dull.

Mike from Colonie, an ex prison worker who did some scared straight programs for Albany High, was talkative and funny.  Most other people were just playing the game.  No stories.

Some of the dealers were engaging.

Promotions were good and attracted the better players.   A half hour high hand paid $200 and the bad beat is up to over $350,000.  I played well, but came out $10 behind after a few hours of play.  It was hard to keep the tables full.  They opened six tables and these dwindled.  It was hard to get them to move us.  They like lots of tables because it increases their rake and dealer tips.

One old fellow drove me nuts.  He tapped is hands and so I had to hold up to see if he was really checking or not.  Then too he talked about the bad beat in a way that might jinx it were it to hit.  Many of us tried to explain that this could allow the casino not to pay, but then later dealers seemed to point out possibilities as well.  So, who knows.

I found out that the main casino offers free coffee and soda that can be accessed by us rather then delivered by the waitress.  No free alcohol here.  But that is good.  I can't entertain myself long enough and there is that drive back.

I loved the no highways ride back to Utica.  I just stay on the one road that passes Turning Stone and it takes me directly to the hotel.  No Thruway tolls and just as fast a ride with less traffic.  Easy.  Nice to have the GPS teach this to me.

DAY 2

I went over for the morning high hand session, from noon to five.  I was the first there at about ten and the room was  empty. 

I decided to amuse myself with some video poker in spite of the very poor pay tables.   I rarely do this.  I amused myself on a Double Double Bonus 6/5 until I lost $60.  This is the worst VP I've played in my life.  94%. 
By then the craps table was full of folks and I used my $10 matchplay and lost that.

There was no game yet.

Just outside the poker room I sat down at a fish barrel slot.  I never play slots, but at one nickle a spin I thought I would amuse myself.  I hit a bonus and the bonus spins did well.  When they opened my table I cashed my $20 out for $98.  Very ironic.

By the time I quit at 5 PM my score for the day was minus one dollar.

I was pretty hungry and went to the Savoy for a fine meal. 

https://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=360069252682634449#editor/target=post;postID=7847221253451772432 I had thought about going to the movies, but instead I went back  for the second session, going from 7PM until 10PM.  I had good cards and I played well.  When I cashed out, my score for the trip was plus $68.

It was a good table with joking players.  Most of the players were good, but there was enough playing poorly to make the pots in general fairly large.  My closest to a high hand was flopped quad fours.  Aces were already on the board, but I did make money.  Later, I got a full house, but there was a higher one on the board.  There were fewer players than on Sunday, and so the odds of hitting a high hand were better.  I think other trips will be weekday trips.  The high hand brings in the players,

There was not much interesting conversation, however.  And there were two annoying issues.  One fellow who seemed nice enough kept trashing my play to the young woman social studies teacher to his left.  First, it was to point out the ridiculous habit of raising and then folding.  I had raised preflop with A-K off and when the board did not support it, I folded.  I said that to him.  Then in a head to head with him, I raised on top two pair, J-9 with a pair of 5's on the board.  He had a five and so I lost the pot.  So he went on about how he did not know why I raised into him.  When I did, he thought I must at least have a 5.  I got ticked and asked him why he needed to debase my hand.  He apologized.  He seemed a good fellow, but I had listened to enough.  I need to stop letting those negative bits affect me.  I have a short temper these days. Later, we joked once.  It was over.  

A woman Shirley had come from Rochester on the bus.  She played during the day session and was very , very tight.  She did not lose much.  I tried to stay out of hands with her, but for a preflop raise I could generally count on her folding.

She joked a good bit.  She hit one high hand.  She also asked about the art museums and NARM.  She praised the Rochester museums.  She had a tough time when Kodak went bankrupt.  Her husband lost his job and his pension.  

The Filipino fellow who jokingly called himself Don Pedro came around after the high hand awards were over and sat to my right.  I had played with this fellow the day before and I liked him.  He was fairly new to the game,   He had a quirky sense of humor and he made little jokes.  At one point he moved like he was going to push all-in and then folded.  The Slink joke move I call it after my old poker buddy Slink who amused himself in the same way at home games.  Because he had made those motions the dealer insisted he raise the pot.  The cards had not mucked.  He called the floor. Don Pedro complied without argument to avoid the floor.  When the pot was reraised, he folded and within a hand or two he packed up his chips and left.  "You can't joke around here anymore" he said.

There was talk and so I spoke up for the newness of the player, and the dealer kept coming into the conversation with his same, worn rule argument.  I told him I got all that.  I was just explaining how it was from the perspective of Don Pedro.  Then some woman who made a habit of checking and betting out of turn, who always seemed to think that the button acted first, said, "Well, you can't fool around at a poker table."  I just laughed at her.  

I understand the sense of no collusion in high hand play, but clearly the dealers were all on edge enforcing it, sometimes annoyed with the threat of job loss, sometimes annoyed at player ignorance of rules.  The no talking rules have to be looked at in the context of other casinos around the country.  It is very common to have an expression like "Spread the pot" to signal that the player had the high hand and just needs one more bet.  Many casinos don't care about enforcement.

In general all the dealers were very efficient and better than I remember.  They knew how to call the game.

One brush talked to me about my writing.  He had seen some of it, but he may also have confused me with another writer of more stature.  It was fine to be noticed.  He was a very fine fellow too.

I missed Don Pedro because he laughed a good bit and we had become friendly.  His very quiet and inverted friend watched the game from behind and smiled when I tried to get him to play.  They were from Kingston, Canada.  He introduced me as Don Dewey.

That took the edge off the evening for me and within a few hands I packed it up for the night. Probably a good thing.  I don't leave with profit often.

I had bought in for $60 and again for $40 and been down below the $40 until I started to improve, so my $59 winnings meant I had won back over $100 from my lowest point.  

These fellows seemed like good players, but they did not seem to register my tight play.  Pocket Aces on the button when raised and an Ace flopped got folks betting in to me.  That was a good hand.

In another I had the king high club flush and check raised on the river to two pair.  In another a very good player and I each had a king when the flop came K-K-8.  Mine was with an 8.  Again, there was no high hand.  I just called the first $2 bet and others bet behind me.  The fellow check raised me on the turn and I reraised and was called on the river.  He had K-Q, but I had the nut.

Very few bad beat jackpot possibilities.  The players were better about not talking about it, but not perfect.  We had to educate folks again.  Dealers said they had been admonished at meetings with the threat of job loss if they did not tighten up on talk around the bonus pays and the casino had refused to pay a few bad beat jackpots.

So there it was.

Such a rule nazi atmosphere just takes a bit of fun out of it all.  So, between Connecticut and Turning Stone I am drawn more to Connecticut.  Not as much sense of rigid rules.  Better hotel choices with TCM and refrigerators.  VP that is full pay.  Free drinks add to the value. Turning Stone at $200 has better high hand pays on weekdays.

With the coupons the poker room sends I could probably come out on the bus and go back on the bus for one overnight of about $60 on weekdays.  Some dates in August have $7 Yankee Trails rides. However, it would mean no meal at the Savoy.

Rivers Casino in Schenectady

I was very near the casino and had a few hours to kill, so I thought I'd give it a look.
Not much was happening this afternoon.
There were a few NL games but no 3-6 game, just a list.  After an hour there were only four of us on the list and they said that they would not start a game without eight, and I suspected some of the four would not still be there.  I just left.

I did sign up for a card and get my free ten dollars.  I lost it in a 7/5 Bonus Poker game, followed it with $80, and hit four deuces for $80, so I cashed out even.  I played about an hour.
The machines themselves were new and worked great, but all the pay tables are less than full pay.  This makes it a $98.01 payout game.  This is way better than playing slots, but it really makes a difference.  For a long while, it made no difference because I did not hit full houses, so I was not short payed.
When I left I had hit 5 full houses, so I was short payed $6.25.  It certainly adds up.

A 9/5 JOB would be better.  Playing just one dollar in a 9/6 dollar JOB would be better.
The JOB there is 8/5.

There was some shouting at one craps table, but otherwise there was not much life in the place.  There were a few pretty girls, but mostly there were those dead faced old people, unhappy and losing.  I'm tired of that scene.
It does make it easier to plan a trip to Mohegan Sun when Elizabeth would like me out of the house for a couple days.  I can always find something to play in the one of the poker rooms.  Bravo Poker application will tell me what is what on my phone.  I should have checked Schenectady today before I went over.
I checked out the interesting slots.  Quite a change from the old days when it was just three spinning wheels on one to three lines.